so, all of this debt is really obama sobama debt. i mean -- is obama debt. george bush is responsible for 5% of it. >> i don't buy those numbers at all. the debt was $1 trillion wh obama came into office. the noble prizewinner, the economist, estimates the cost of the iraq wars in the neighborhood of 5 or $6 trillion. by the time we pay veterans its >> all right, gary, let me switch topics for a little bit n. an introduce yesterday, mitt romney backtracked on his infamous 47% comment saying in this case, i said something that is just completely wrong. is that another etch a sketch moment for romney? >> it keeps the mitt romney weather vane question going. it would have been a better answer to have commit it come out the day the story came out than three weeks later. >> i can't wonder why romney's running from the 47%. everything he citizen true. 45, 47% of the people go one way, 45, 47% go the other way. we fight over the other 10%. it's certainly the case that obama has built out the victim economy, the dependency economy, the welfare economy. there are man